Should Shooters Be More Realistic?

[Kai193]

Should the shoot em' ups we play on our consoles be more realistic?

Seen this debated a few times round the net and so forth..

This being graphically and gameplay wise. Should it include in-depth detail of blood and your character's guts pouring everywhere? Should it be 'one shot=dead'? Where health packs and rechargable health are completely dimminished... Basically everything that makes a game different from real life.

My own answer to this would be:

Definately No!
We play games for fun, if games were made ultra-realistic-where'd the fun be in that? Real life wars are completely disgusting, if we wanted that we'd join the Army. Game ratings would soar, games would be constantly banned or 18+, If not higher...

[Adzie]

Shooters would be more realistic if the technology would allow it. FACT.

Some clever person would come along and think that everyone wants to get a real life experience of war / killing people etc. It hasn't been done yet because technology simply will not allow it.

Personally I would be interested to play a fully realistic shooter sim.

[Kai193]

Originally Posted by Adzie

Shooters would be more realistic if the technology would allow it. FACT.

Some clever person would come along and think that everyone wants to get a real life experience of war / killing people etc. It hasn't been done yet because technology simply will not allow it.

Personally I would be interested to play a fully realistic shooter sim.

Yes you are right Adzie, but things such as getting killed from one shot. Disabling things such as perks etc. The technology wouldn't allow some of it, but right now games could be made a bit more realistic. Probably not in the graphics area however.
I'd like to have a go at a realistic shooter, but think it'd bore me over time.

[VG Pelega]

what would you class as realistic?

In a real scenario, recoil is real, not in most of these games. Running fast does knacker you, and people should be able to trip up more often, like in the movies.

But I see the point of, "If I shoot you with .50cal Sniper "cannon", I want to see the same effect as in Rambo 4" For me, thats keeping it realistic, with out actually getting hurt by the game being "more realistic", it just shows more realism has still to be improved on.

[Toxic]

Children are able to play Rated 'M' Games these days. Putting high-density reality graphics into a war game will mess up a child's mind more than it is now. My seven year old cousin played Gear of War and all he thinks about is what is in the game and can't concentrate on anything, but then again some games have settings to block blood and whatnot. And the Xbox has the famliy settings. But then there is a percentage of kids who can tell what is real and what i not.

[XL Single Malt]

Yes there should be at least one "realistic" shooter franchise. It used to be Rainbow 6. Who has played the original 3 pc versions? Operation Flashpoint, the original Ghost Recon (pc) These were as realistic as shooters got.

Rainbow6 had a meticulous planning phase that carefully layed out strats, and tactics before the mission started. One mistake in this section was the difference between success or failure. Also it was 1-2 hit kills, realistic recoil, no regen health, persistent teammates (they died they stayed dead, they were injured, incapacitated they needed weeks or months to heal, the operatives suffered from fatigue, which affected their accuracy and speed). Now knowing all this...Is R6Vegas, a true R6 game? Not anymore. Every above element of the R6 games has been removed (including the ability to open doors as far as you wanted, e.g. a little crack to drop a flash thru in order to clear), and all those elements came to make R6 to the franchise it was, only to be sabotaged to Vegas, which in reality is no different to other shooters out there. Good graphics don't make a realistic game, the gameplay does.

The original GR went a step further with the damage model insofar that if you got hit in the leg, your character would limp and move slower. I you got hit in the arm your accuracy would suffer.

Unfortunately I cannot comment on Operation Flashpoint, as I have never played it.

Anyway, to make a realistic shooter you dont need the guts and gore. That would lead to an 18 or adult only rating, which aint that good. But to be fair, a realistic shooter in the vain of the original R6 games would go down very well in my books. The kids wont play it as it would be too difficult, but there is a larger "niche" market for this type of game than is believed. The console population buys what it is given, quite often they like what they are told to like. Making a game like the original R6 would please pc gamers no end, plus would probably place itself firmly in the console market to boot. The market needs a "realistic " shooter, as there is a big hole that R6 left since Lockdown.

[Toxic]

America's Army is a pretty realistic shooter not the best graphics, but the controls are similar to R6 series you have mentioned, Malt. In America's Army you could also bleed out if a medic can't get to you, also you have to complete several tests, not to play, but to go to different classes (Sniper And Medic) and maps. Some of these test include hitting all of the targets in the BCT shooting range, completeing parachute training, medical school, sniper class, humvee driving course, crows gunnery range, and that's pretty much it. And in the Medical Class they show you a video for you to study from and you have to take an exam to pass. And actually you have to complete BCT to play.

[VG Pelega]

Very valid points there single Malt, and much better worded than my response, but I have seen some realistic games on the PC, and I just think the console market has a long way to go, before any games start to compare to what is available on the PC.

We have games with 18+ ratings, and gore content, but that doesn't always mean it is a realistic shooter in any way. Games can be made more real, but its the majority that these bigger companies cater for, and so the realistic lovers get left behind, as the casual gamer takes over.