GoW2 New Ladder rules

[IRISH J0K3R]

I think me and Bazza know Gow2. What works and dosnt work. We have put input into the rules. Unless of course you know someone better to make the rules up?

[Explosivo]

Well what im saying is that The whole staff doing the rules business has been done before and usually the rules dont work..

Im not Questionning your knowledge of GOW2 but i would say as far as weapon swaps are concerned and other rules i would say community chat / votes would be better for WoC than Staff voting

[Orangecroc]

i don't see why you would want frags out. If you're not checking walls for frags it's your own fault if you get blown up, simple as. I get killed a lot by random mortar fire, but if i were to run for the mortar to stop people getting it, that wouldn't be a problem. Also, having friendly fire on prevents people randomly firing off the mortar or placing frags on walls.

I get killed a lot by shotguns, can we take that out please.

[Explosivo]

Tasteless Joke Croc

The reason people are asking frags to be taken out is because it overly promotes camping, also you can have frags planted on the floor, awkward areas, mostly corners with the other player waiting at the end of a corridor so your too preoccupied to hear the explosion and half the time the games lagging so the beep comes after the explosion

[Orangecroc]

Still don't think they should be taken out. I saw some amazing use of the frag booby traps yesterday. One guy come running out to get in a firefight then turned tail and ran with the other guy chasing him only to lead him past a planted grenade.

The reason things like grenade planting and stopping power on bullets was added to gears of war 2 was to make it a more tactical and considered game in multiplayer. The weapon swaps being put foward are basically saying fuck you we don't want to play the game you made, we want to play your old one. Go play gears 1 if you don't like it is what i say.

[IRISH REAP3R]

If frags are in ill just play pavillion and sit in spawn and have each of my members tag the walls. So thats a lot of nades to try and dodge. It does not show skill. Also considering they would spawn 30 seconds after being used your whole team could have nades on walls within minutes. Also if I know there other team got nades Id just camp back and not go near them. And not too mention there a ton of angkle you can plant nades where Id say most people would not be able to blow up without killing them yourself. And if you want a more tatical game take nades out then the game will be based purely on your teams strats and not on overpowered weapons. Also battles would then be won on skill who can aim not just press b button and face a wall.

[IRISH J0K3R]

Frags should be taken out. In a match where people dont want to lose you will have 5 hour games. If frag grenades are on. I know Im not moving near the base and risking getting blown up. I wouldnt call tatical planting grenade on a wall. Then waiting on someone to come in. I wouldnt call tatical is team firing and knowing when to rush a guy. The weapon swaps in the game are to stop camping. Not doing this dosnt lead to tatical gameplay instead of just hiding.

[VG Pelega]

This is an open debate here, and members are being given the chance to discuss the rules. We understand what you mean, explosivo, with staff deciding on rules.

But at the end of the day, there will always be someone/several people who do not like the rules on the ladders, but we must go with the majority. For this reason, the ultimate decision will lie with WoC staff. We can get it wrong, or get it just right.

I suggest a GoW 2 night, using the GB rules, and then any clan who takes part could provide some feedback to the community?